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  This Is My Current Stage

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm currently in the stage of mixed feelings.

  i feel torn at times because of this.

  i've built up courage to come to this website, and recently i've built up enough to take part in it.

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  aligot ripounsous

  It's late now, I will post tomorrow on this if it's re'levent, as it is about what my attitude toward my children is
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  I am so angry and frustrated right now

  by elinor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i cannot be very specific with this because i do not know who is patrolling these boards to try to catch faders (like me).

  my mother has been very ill for a long time due to multiple health issues, all of them stemming back to a very low blood cell count.

  before i even began to have doubts, as well as my father asking me about the 1975 debacle, i kept wondering why god (i can't call him jehovah now that i know the truth) would allow such a wonderful and selfless person to suffer if all they needed was something that was produced naturally in our bodies.

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  Elinor,

  please allow me first to convey to you my most heartfelt sympathy in the trial you are going through currently. Six months ago I myself have assisted my mom, day after day, in the process of passing away, and I understand what you feel. Now, as I'm certain you care about having your mum reach death in a peaceful mind, I feel that,whatever you personnaly think about how having a blood transfusion is justified or not, the most important point, since I understand that, as a JW, she doesn't want any, is to respect her stand so that she won't add the burden of guilty feelings, helpelness or anger to the suffering of her agony. She has a right to have her convictions respected at a time when someone else has to made the decision on her behalf. In doing so, I think you will help her go peacefully and that is what matters.
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  When you were in field service....

  by lavendar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever have anyone, at the door, say something to you that created a seed of doubt in your mind about the wts?

  something at all that started you thinking "maybe i'm really not in the truth".

  i would be interested in hearing about that.. thanks,.

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  There is one question I know would make me feel real embarrassed : " so, if I understand you well, God is going to destroy poverty by means of destroying the poor ?" this is one of the thoughts which have motivated me most to keep this organization at arm's length.
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  I just couldn't do it ........

  by Bumble Bee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a damp spring day here.

  all the bugs are coming out.

  this morning i went to do some laundry and there was the creepiest bug i have ever seen before in the laundry tub!

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  aligot ripounsous

  I always keep ready at hand a plastic goblet for spiders to throw outdoors and I raise my children in doing the same because really, it's not their fault if they were not born as butterflies or dragonflies and are so ugly. Unfortunately, sometimes too much is too much and I hoover in some unfortunate ones when cleaning the house. Afterwars I may regret and go outside where I tear off the hoover paper bag to give them a second chance...and sometimes it works, they run away gatefully. The kids pull my leg on this attitude but I already told them that if they like animals thay will like people.Thinking of turning hinduist
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  Is being a Jehovahs Witness sometimes a good thing..............

  by fifi40 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to explain this thread i need to tell a sad and horrific story about someone that was once a friend...............for the sake of privacy i will refer to her as carol.. i met carol in the about 1990. i was not a jw (had left when i was 16 and unbaptised).

  i was suffering with panic attacks, i think for many reasons but mainly because i had recently lost my dad and took it very hard.

  i lived with my then boyfriend, who later became my husband in a town in south yorkshire.

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  If I had to give a fragile person any advice as to whether she should remain a JW or not, I would'nt take the chance to destabilize her even further with the stress of breaking off from her JW way of life and having to start again from scratch a new social life, in addition to her dealing with her own weakness, traumatic memories, drugs, etc. We may like or not the idea, but the congregation provides a framed environment to fragile persons who otherwise would be overcome by the difficulties of their lives.

  Knowing that you are under check can be very efficient. I gave up smoking 30 years ago during the period when I studied with JWs and I'm far from sure I would have managed to do so without this forced help.
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  Convince me

  by Liza in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am highly considering becoming a jehovah's witness.

  i have been raised in the congregration, but left it when i was a child because my mom left too, but we still retatined the core belifs including the ressurection and the blasphemous pagan influence on mainstream churches.

  my mom has recently returned to the congregation, and it has helped her a lot.

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  Liza,

  Your looking for different opinions before a possible commitment to JW's religion tells the seriousness of your approach. You are very fortunate to have the internet at hand, I'm sure there are many here who wish they had gotten it when they started association with JWs.

  Much is said to you on this board about various aspects of your life as a would-be JW, so I limit my contribution to the topic of free speech. I am, still, a JW and I like to confront various points of view too. Unfortunately, the very fact I visit this site shows that I've not been able to find such exchanges within the congregation. Actually, it was acceptable so long as I was not baptized, as I found for a while an open minded elder (who left the organization later) to speak to freely about the questions which were bumping in my mind as it happens with any newcomer. The way many JWs do, I told myself that I could leave unanswered questions aside and in time, with personal study, reflection and association with the congregation, I would get satisfactory answers.

  However as time was passing I had to fully realize that after baptism the lid on the pressure cooker, where questions were still in turmoil, was tightly sealed by the organization, and also by a measure of self-censorship, which wouldn't let the steam out because my new status as a JW would impel me to responsibly "build up the brothers' faith" and it was no time to question anymore.

  You must have noticed that quite a few posters on this board have been JWs for 20, 30 or more years before eventually breaking off, which shows that you don't put yourself into question overnight after you have joined this organization. The internet makes it easier now, though, as it lets you know that many other JWs are or once were in the same uncomfortable position.

  The sad reality is that there is no freedom of speech within the WTS. A few months ago, some elders complained that I was constantly airing deviant comments at the book and WT study meetings. A talk was given from the platform, in general terms, about the matter, and the circuit overseer thought he, too, had to straighten things up in a talk, saying plainly that you have a right not to agree with the F&DS teaching so long as you keep silent. In doing so, he de facto recognized the totalitarian nature of this organization, since faithfulness to Jehovah is measured to the standard of your mute adhesion to the WTS. This conclusion is in line with what other posters have already written to you here.

  In the end, the decision is yours but, at least, you have here on this board abundant material to ponder over.
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  Why a paradise earth is so appealing to JWs?

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why a paradise earth is so appealing to jws?.

  well no one can say they look around at the problems today and can say they like everything they see.

  so a nice clean paradise world would be pretty great.

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  Hei, Narkissos,

  I think we exemplify the two terms of the alternative. You seem to accept the "nothing" solution, I don't, whether for lack of fortitude (that's where the old crutch becomes useful as some would say) or out of faith, I honestly don't know. I just prefer the second term of the alternative because, in a very utilitarian way, I think that feeling accountable for what we do to a supreme authority saves us, and our neighbours, much trouble. And if, on top of it, this authority rewards us, its all benefit as old Blaise Pascal said, if I remember well.
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  Why a paradise earth is so appealing to JWs?

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why a paradise earth is so appealing to jws?.

  well no one can say they look around at the problems today and can say they like everything they see.

  so a nice clean paradise world would be pretty great.

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  aligot ripounsous

  To me, paradise earth is appealing because it's the only notion I can grasp, I haven't the faintest idea of what life would be like in heavenly spheres. It is only too obvious (that's why it has been repeated so often) that man is meant for the earth and the latter for man, how can we possibly lose sight of that ? Another evidence (sorry if we find the idea in the WT litterature) is that man, elaborate as he is, deserves more than a mere 80 year passage on earth, otherwise what a waste of resources, it just doesn't make sense.

  Granted, notions of limited earth and eternal life don't tally and with our limited current abilities and short sighted outlook we find it difficult to imagine we could live forever without being bored, but hasn't jehovah assured us that he will satisfy the desire of every living being ? Christians, of whatever denomination they are, can't just shove aside this promise. By the way, wouldn't the bore problem be the same in heaven ? So I gather that the altenative is either paradise earth or nothing.

  I'm not sure that many JWs would consider living under a WTlike iron rule during eternity as real paradise, but Jah's promise is beyond WT promise and paradise must mean paradise. A sensible guy was saying once that the amount of knowledge between the most learnt man and the total ignorant is nought as compared with all that we don't know. Has anyone a proposal that will offer a better prospect than an absurd life ?
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  It's just....oh I don't know...Werid!

  by rosiegurl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok so i've been reading thru the posts here for the last week or so since i found it.

  and i just am amazed i think or i don't know...i feel something that i can't quite put my finger on.

  i was raised in 'the truth' as many here were.

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  One must also consider the fact that in a married couple, if Mister disassociates or is disfellowshipped, Mrs will find herself in a ghetto, no one showing up at home anymore. So, for the sake of our mate who wants to remain a witness, as she(he)'s free to do, let's remember that we said yes for the best and the worst, and let's endure.
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  Maybe this was posted

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before ...but anyway for those who didnt see it( if it was ).

  jan15th 06 page 23 of the watchtower.

  "because of listening to the devil & not rejecting his lies.the first human pair apostatized.so,then,should we listen to apostates,read theor literature ,or examine their web sites on the internet?if we love god& the truth,we will not do so.we should not allow apostates into our homes,or even greet them,for such actions would make us "sharers in their wicked works".

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  or examine their Web sites on the Internet?or examine their Web sites on the Internet?

  Will someone be kind and tell this WT writer that the more he urges witnesses not to go on the internet, the more they will want to see what is it that they should'nt see